Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 (Tek) 9/26/83; site mako.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!akgua!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!hplabs!tektronix!orca!mako!ariels From: ariels@mako.UUCP (Ariel Shattan) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Fear and Loathing in ... Message-ID: <126@mako.UUCP> Date: Fri, 18-May-84 12:56:03 EDT Article-I.D.: mako.126 Posted: Fri May 18 12:56:03 1984 Date-Received: Mon, 21-May-84 05:10:47 EDT References: <1851@mit-vax.UUCP> <2551@watcgl.UUCP>, <1119@ihuxl.UUCP>, <857@druca.UUCP> <124@mako.UUCP> Organization: Tektronix, Wilsonville OR Lines: 57 Tim S. says: >Why do so many women continually pursue vocations/careers that are known >in advance to not pay well? Perhaps their energy would be better spent >pursuing better-paying jobs than trying to raise the salaries of jobs that >they trained for and accepted knowing full well that it would not pay as >well as some other job. When you are told from infancy onward that you are not good in math and science, and that the best thing you can aspire to is to help people, you feel later that you are unprepared for the "better" jobs. Also, until just recently (the last 10 years or so), even women who managed to struggle against the education system and become prepared for engineering and management positions were not hired, because they were women. The "pink collar ghettos" are filled with women because: a) Up until very recently those were the only jobs women could get. b) Men have been/are trained since childhood that they can aspire to much higher goals ("any boy can grow up to be President. Look at Abe Lincoln"), and therefore don't even consider (until recently) the service positions. People stay in low-pay positions because: a) They can't afford the training it takes to advance. b) They like their work, even if they don't like the pay. c) They are not given the opportunity to advance, even though others in the same position have been because of some arbitrary criterion. d) They need the job to live on, and they're raising a family alone, so they haven't any extra time, energy, or money for dreams. I personally feel that many of the the pink collar ghetto jobs should pay a whole lot more. No company of any size on this planet can run without secretaries. No hospital or clinic can run without nurses. And raising and teaching children has got to be the absolute most important job around; it's where the future of the species lies. However, NONE of these positions pay as much as a welder, or even as a GARBAGE COLLECTOR! It's a crying shame that this society doesn't consider children as important as garbage. Besides which, when the only job opportunity you have is in the pink collar ghetto, you take it. The rent must be payed and the body fed. Many of us are very lucky to never have had to worry about these issues. But most of the world works to live. The luxury of choosing a "satisfying" job belongs only to a fortunate few. Ariel (there but for the grace of [pick a deity]...) Shattan ..!tektronix!mako!ariels