Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site watmath.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!csc From: csc@watmath.UUCP (Computer Sci Club) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: tests and ability Message-ID: <7843@watmath.UUCP> Date: Thu, 24-May-84 15:11:23 EDT Article-I.D.: watmath.7843 Posted: Thu May 24 15:11:23 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 26-May-84 13:22:55 EDT References: <495@decwrl.UUCP> Organization: U of Waterloo, Ontario Lines: 30 Lisa Chabot attempts to find a difference between test score and the ability to take a test, by showing an example where a population mean is incorrectly estimated due to a poor choice of sample! Does Lisa Chabot suggest that the age of mencarche of the women studied was incorrectly determined because they were not from a representative sample? I agree that there is a big difference between saying that the sample of women (men, monkeys, wombats) we tested had a mean of x, and saying the mean of all women is x. Also even if sampling technique is good, results of a survey can only apply to the population from which the survey was drawn. (Good sampling techniqe and population are related here. Good sampling technique means that each member of the population has an equal chance of being selected) Extrapolations to other populations are dangerous (even though they are quite often valid). There is a difference beween the term I.Q. as it is sometimes used and the score on some specific I.Q. test. That is because research has led us to believe there is some specific set of attributes of human beings which we can call I.Q. This I.Q. is highly correlated to scores on certain tests, but not identical. That is one might raise ones score on a test by training in the methods of this test yet not be said to have raised ones I.Q. When I talk about I.Q. I mean the score on some specific I.Q. test. What does all this have to do with saying there is a difference between a persons tallness and their ability to take tallness tests? William Hughes