Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site watcgl.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!watcgl!dmmartindale From: dmmartindale@watcgl.UUCP (Dave Martindale) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Sexism in insurance prices Message-ID: <2602@watcgl.UUCP> Date: Thu, 24-May-84 15:12:49 EDT Article-I.D.: watcgl.2602 Posted: Thu May 24 15:12:49 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 26-May-84 13:23:12 EDT References: <149@looking.UUCP> Organization: U of Waterloo, Ontario Lines: 33 The argument in favour of charging all men in some group the same insurance rate is that it is statistically valid and, I suppose, easier to treat all men as a member of a group rather than evaluating each one individually. The argument in favour of not discriminating against women in hiring, even if it is statistically justfied, is that it is unfair to the individual. It seems that somewhere society has decided that in issues related to hiring and pay, justice for the individual is more important than the convenience of the employer, but that in issuing insurance policies the convenience of the insurer may override considerations of rates tailored to the individual. Everyone agree so far? Now, it seems that this difference in treatment might be justified on the grounds that the company has to look at each applicant being considered for a job individually anyway so there is no reason not to treat them as individuals, but in the case of insurance it would be difficult or expensive or both to determine methods of assessing risk individually for each applicant. I'm not saying that this is fair, just that there is at least an argument why different policies could be used in these different cases. However, I see absolutely no difference between setting auto insurance premiums based on sex and setting life insurance premiums (or, alternately, benefits) based on sex. It is simply unfair for sex to be ignored in places where that benefits women, and for sex to be taken into consideration where *that* benefits women instead. A question to the readers: given a choice between insurance companies charging the same rates regardless of sex for all types of insurance or using sex to determine rates for all types of insurance, which system would you choose? Dave Martindale