Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 (Tek) 9/26/83; site mako.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!akgua!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!hplabs!tektronix!orca!mako!tims From: tims@mako.UUCP (Tim Stoehr) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Allstate Insurance says women don't deserve equal pay with men Message-ID: <134@mako.UUCP> Date: Wed, 23-May-84 12:51:44 EDT Article-I.D.: mako.134 Posted: Wed May 23 12:51:44 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 31-May-84 19:45:09 EDT References: <621@pyuxqq.UUCP>, <7783@watmath.UUCP>, <931@dciem.UUCP> Organization: Tektronix, Wilsonville OR Lines: 28 > But if you charge women a premium equal to men, even though their > accident statistics are lower, then you are discriminating against women. > To my mind, THIS is sexist. However, the last thing I heard, such a > change was in fact going to be introduced here, on the grounds you give. OK, if that's all right, then since women are statistically higher credit risks, let's make sure that loan companies apply stricter rules to them, after all, women make less money, on the average. Also, women are statistically weaker physically than men, so let's pay them less for jobs that require physical strength. And let's also make sure noone calls these practices 'sexist' or 'discrimination,' unless we want to be hypocrytical. > Ideally, the insurance companies would study the way > you, the individual, drive before they set your premium. That's impractical. > The best approximation available is to use all the relevant statistical data. But whenever such statistical data is not in favor of women, it is branded as sexual discrimination. And in the car insurance case, social factors determining driving habits are completely ignored by the same people who are quick to point out social conditioning in women in order to attack similar practices against women that are considered inexcusable. One thing the feminist movement can never be justly accused of is consistency. > In the name of sexual equality, let's keep men's premiums higher. See what I mean?