Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!unc!mcnc!decvax!ittvax!dcdwest!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!hplabs!sri-unix!BIESEL@RUTGERS.ARPA From: BIESEL@RUTGERS.ARPA Newsgroups: net.ai Subject: Philosophy and other amusements. Message-ID: <1291@sri-arpa.UUCP> Date: Mon, 25-Jun-84 13:27:57 EDT Article-I.D.: sri-arpa.1291 Posted: Mon Jun 25 13:27:57 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 30-Jun-84 04:10:54 EDT Lines: 52 Judging from the responses on this net, the audience is evenly split between those who consider philosophy a waste of time in the context of AI, and those who love to dig up and discuss the same old chestnuts and conundrums that have amused amateur philosophers for many years now. First, any AI program worthy of that apellation is in fact an implementation of of philosophical theory, whether the implementer is aware of that fact or not. It is unfortunate that most implementers do *NOT* seem to be aware of this. Take something as apparently clear and unphilosophical as a vision program trying to make sense out of a blocks-world. Well, all that code deciding whether this or that junction of line segments could correspond to a corner is ultimately based on the (usually subconscious) presumption that there is a "real" world, that it exhibits certain regularities whether perceived by man or machine, that these regularities correspond to arrangements of "matter" and "energy", and that some aspects of these regularities can and should serve to constrain the behavior of some machine. There are even more buried assumptions about the time invariance of physical phenomena, the principle of causation, and the essential equivalence of "intelligent" behavior realized by different kinds of hardware/mushware (i.e. cells vs. transistors). ALL of these assumptions represent philosophical positions, which at other times, and in other places would have been severely questioned. It is only our common western heritage of rationalism and materialism that cloaks these facts, and makes it appear that the matter is settled. The unfortunate end-effect of this is that some of our more able practitioners (hackers) are unable to critically examine the foundations on which they build their systems, leading to ever more complex hacks, with patches applied where the underlying fabric of thought becomes threadbare. Second, for those who are fond of unscrewing the inscrutable, it should be pointed out that philosophy has never answered any fundamental questions (i.e. identity, duality, one vs. many, existence, essence etc. etc.). That is not its purpose; instead it should be an attempt to critically examine the foundations of our opinions and beliefs about the world, and its meaning. Take a real hard look at why you believe that "...Intuition is nothing more than..." thus-and-such, and if you come up with:'it is intuitively obvious', or 'everybody knows that', you've uncovered a mental blind spot. You may in the end confirm your original views, but at least you will know why you believe what you do, and you will have become aware of alternative views. Consider a solipsist AI program: philosophically unassailable, logically self-consistent, but functionally useless and indistinguishable from an autistic program. I'm afraid that some of the AI program approaches are just as dead-end, because they reflect only too well the simplistic views of their authors. Pete BIESEL@RUTGERS.ARPA (quick, more gasoline, I think the flames are dying down...)