Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!unc!mcnc!akgua!psuvax1!psuvm%gms From: psuvm%gms@psuvax1.UUCP Newsgroups: net.ai Subject: re: Mind and Brain Message-ID: <899@psuvm.UUCP> Date: Fri, 22-Jun-84 11:07:36 EDT Article-I.D.: psuvm.899 Posted: Fri Jun 22 11:07:36 1984 Date-Received: Tue, 10-Jul-84 01:41:38 EDT Lines: 59 With regard to chess masters and intuition I would add the following. A paper by Chase and Simon (1973??, I can't remember the journal) explained the strategies of chess masters in terms of greater chunking of possible moves in a given situation. This is to say that chess masters, by virtue of their years of study of chess moves and countermoves, are able to relate to a game in terms of groups of moves rather than in terms of single moves. This chunking ability helps to explain not only the apparant differences in thought processes between experts and novices, but also explains the apparant conflict with Millers notion of a processing buffer limit ("Magic Number 7 Plus or Minus 2") to the human information processing system. The point I am trying to make here is that I feel that it is unwise to attribute the strategy development of a chess expert (or any other kind of 'expert') to the notion of 'intuition'. In fact I would further propose that the problem of 'intuition' is really a problem of perspective. As a long-standing programmer I have learned to adopt certain heuristics in approaching ill-structured problems. The heuristics may be thought of as generalized rules of thumb which serve to reduce the search space of the problem at hand. (a hacker mentality) To an observer it may appear that I am intuitively reaching certain conclusions about the problem and the potential solutions. I would maintain that in actaulty my mind, (in terms of the HIP paradigm), is using a combination of chunking and heuristic strategy in an attempt to solve the problem. Whether this process can be called 'logical' or not is a moot point at this stage. Not enough is really known about the memory processes that are undoubtedly involved to determine this with certainty. I think also that part of the problem here is one of perspective. Many of us have had an experience whereby our conscious minds were doing one thing while our unconscious minds were doing something else (apparantly). As an example, being so lost in thought while driving a car that one is not consciously aware of the last few miles of travel while in fact all of the turns were made correctly and all traffic laws were obeyed. An 'intuitive' awareness of ones destination and current physical circumatances (ie other traffic, etc . . .) could be used as a simple explaination. I think the real basis for an explaination of this kind of process will hinge on a number of cooperative underlying mental processes producing a cumulative effect that gives the illusion of a master, 'ill-defined', process. I would further propose that the state of self-awareness is also such an illusion of perspective. I have no doubt (unless a homunculous-like feature such as a human spirit or soul is discovered) that the eventual explaination will turn out to have a physical reality that can be (although expensively) be simulated. The same problem surfaces in pattern recognition. It may be that no simple explainations of certain types of pattern recognition have been found because the real underlying mechanism involves a number of separate but cooperating processes that we, because of our perspective, interpret as being one all-encompassing (although ill-defined) process. Check out the book Mind Design by John Haugland for more discourse (abiet somewhat philosophical) on this area. Gerry Santoro GMS @ PSUVM (bitnet) Micro. Inf. & Support Center !decvax!mcnc!idis!santoro (UUCP) Penn State University (814) 863-4356