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Subject: Re: Should The Turing test be modified w - (nf)
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Date: Wed, 25-Jul-84 12:54:00 EDT
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>What I am wondering is "should the Test be modified
>to Our times?"

I don't think so; at least not with the video link you mentioned.  A key
element in the Turing Imitation game was that it hid the handicaps suffered
by the computer, leaving only the (possible) intelligence exposed. If you
could modify it without subtracting that property, then I'd say yes. It
just isn't clear that that can be done.

>I can see it now,
>over a crude link, we discover that we cannot tell the difference between
>man and machine, then we hook up a video link, and the difference 'becomes
>apparent.'

If that were the case, it would seem that the "apparent difference" would
be identical to the difference you get between a blind man and a sighted
man.  Are we therefore to conclude that the blind are only artificially
intelligent.

>--eugene miya
>  NASA Ames Research Center

	<mike