Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 Fluke 1/4/84; site fluke.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!houxm!houxz!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!ssc-vax!fluke!inc From: inc@fluke.UUCP (Gary Benson) Newsgroups: net.flame Subject: Re: More on toilet seats Message-ID: <306@tpvax.fluke.UUCP> Date: Tue, 3-Jul-84 13:06:13 EDT Article-I.D.: tpvax.306 Posted: Tue Jul 3 13:06:13 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 5-Jul-84 06:31:22 EDT References: <480@rayssd.UUCP> <2269@mit-eddie.UUCP>, <1190@ucbvax.UUCP> <581@ihuxj.UUCP> Organization: John Fluke Mfg. Co., Everett, WA Lines: 59 ++ AT LAST!! Some intelligence is being applied to the problem of how to leave the toilet seat after use. While the "minimal-labor chart" was a step in the right direction, it really didn't take into account the wear on the hinges, nor did it factor in the frequency-of-use issues that have been addressed since then. (To those who might be skeptical about my credentials: I *do* have a cat, but he has been trained to leave the seat UP ;-) ASSUMING that the frequency of use is 3 to 1, weighted to distaff, I would be very curious to see a chart that shows not just minimal labor, but also considers minimal hinge-wear and doesn't discriminate on the basis of sex. I live in an all-male house (me and my cat Ralph), and I always leave the seat in the position most convenient for the next user (usually myself). If the next use will probably be a hurried 2, then I think ahead, and leave it down. If I'm having a few brewskies while watching the ball game, then more than likely I'll need it up next time, so it stays up all day. If a young woman is coming to dinner, I flip the seat down. Perhaps the new chart should take 'probability of next user' into account. I have something like this in mind: This User F M1 M2 Probability of Next User M2 M1 F Optimal Action LMLMLMLMLMLMLM *To use this nomograph, place one end of a straightedge on the current position (U=Up, D=Down), and line it up along the axis that intersects the current user and probability of next user. Read the optimal action (L=Leave, M=Move) on the other end of the ruler. NOTE: "Leave" and "Move" refer to what should be done to the seat at completion of business. BTW-- have you ever noticed when you visit a State Park that the Women's toilets always reek a lot worse than the Men's? I attribute this phenomenon to the fact that the seat stays up in the Men's, down in the Women's. Outhouses that have the seat always down tend to trap odoriferous fumes, allowing anaerobic bacteria to run rampant. Conversely, if the seat is normally up, the aerobic bacteria can function, resulting in significant environmental air-quality improvement. -- From the ever smiling, .). ever happy fingers of: V Gary Benson + + John Fluke Mfg. Co. ILLEGITIMI NON CARBORUNDUM !fluke!inc + +