Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: Notesfiles; site ea.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!ea!mwm From: mwm@ea.UUCP Newsgroups: net.flame Subject: Re: May be offensive to UNIX Users - PLE - (nf) Message-ID: <3300037@ea.UUCP> Date: Mon, 16-Jul-84 20:02:00 EDT Article-I.D.: ea.3300037 Posted: Mon Jul 16 20:02:00 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 21-Jul-84 04:24:49 EDT References: <2404@decwrl.UUCP> Lines: 37 Nf-ID: #R:decwrl:-240400:ea:3300037:000:1531 Nf-From: ea!mwm Jul 16 19:02:00 1984 #R:decwrl:-240400:ea:3300037:000:1531 ea!mwm Jul 16 19:02:00 1984 /***** ea:net.flame / ihuxr!stanwyck / 12:46 am Jul 14, 1984 */ *FLAME* *FLAME* *FLAME* *FLAME* *FLAME* *FLAME* *FLAME* *FLAME* *FLAME* *FLAME* OK, you dirty mollusks who eat live and die your silly inefficient editor that require two hands for every operation - thats right - you emacs/gmacs users, listen here! Our human facters people did some studies where they took experienced vi, emacs, and ed users and gave them a large variety of tasks to do. Then they sat back and measured the human efficiency of each, as well as the time it took to do it. They discovered your sickly little flacky excuse for an editor to 40% more effort to do the same things as the average vi users did. ________ Don Stanwyck ihnp4!ihuxr!stanwyck /* ---------- */ So vi is more efficient than emacs on trivial tasks? So what. If I wanted a human-efficient editor for things like that, and couldn't get a mouse for my emacs, I'd go looking for something like the WANG WP software, with arrow keys. Trouble is, I have to do real work, involving three or more files. That silly excuse for a screen editor called vi makes me bounce back and forth between edit sessions (if I'm lucky enough to have process control), or worse yet fire up new editor - gag, I can't go on. The thought is making me sick. Of course, once you get used to that silly "edit file, leave editor, test process file, loop" work mode that vi forces on you, you can't make use of the extra power emacs-like editors give you. That's your tough luck, slime.