Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site opus.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!houxm!houxz!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!hplabs!hao!cires!nbires!opus!rcd From: rcd@opus.UUCP (Dick Dunn) Newsgroups: net.flame Subject: VMS documentation? Message-ID: <627@opus.UUCP> Date: Fri, 20-Jul-84 23:38:04 EDT Article-I.D.: opus.627 Posted: Fri Jul 20 23:38:04 1984 Date-Received: Mon, 23-Jul-84 01:33:55 EDT References: <978@ihuxi.UUCP> Organization: NBI, Boulder Lines: 21 > The reason that you see no books about VMS is that the people at > DEC have heard of something that will come as a mild shock to UN*X > people. It is called > > DOCUMENTATION!! But the books you find in the bookstores have nothing in common with the documentation provided by either the people who distrubute UNIX (in its various guises) or VMS. Both systems come with REFERENCE material. The UNIX community knows all too well what the VMS world either totally fails to understand or doesn't care about - you need TUTORIAL information as well. I dunno, maybe the basic knowledge of how to use VMS has to be inherited. (Things like the unbelievably baroque and inconsistent quoting conventions of DCL [disclaimer: when I last used it a couple of years ago] are neither documented nor amenable to analysis in a rational framework:-) In any case, the books in the bookstores present real tutorial material - that is, how to LEARN to use UNIX. Haven't seen any of that on VMS, from within DEC or outside. -- Dick Dunn {hao,ucbvax,allegra}!nbires!rcd (303)444-5710 x3086 ...A friend of the devil is a friend of mine.