Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site ritcv.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!ihnp4!drutx!houxe!hogpc!houti!ariel!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!hplabs!hao!seismo!rochester!ritcv!jeh From: jeh@ritcv.UUCP Newsgroups: net.lang.st80 Subject: ST80 to Micros? ... another aspect: Can ST be Smaller? Message-ID: <1125@ritcv.UUCP> Date: Thu, 19-Jul-84 20:29:31 EDT Article-I.D.: ritcv.1125 Posted: Thu Jul 19 20:29:31 1984 Date-Received: Sun, 22-Jul-84 02:59:53 EDT References: <1237@ihuxl.UUCP> Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology, Rochester, NY Lines: 22 Yes, Smalltalk has a very large virtual machine, and it's tightly bound in to an environment which contains, most importantly, a hi-res bitmapped display, and also a pointing device. I'd like to hear people's opinions on this alternative -- taking all the graphics/window stuff away. What do you have left? A lisp-like system where you enter a piece of code, possibly compile it, and store it away in your workspace for anyone to use. Since ST is so big in terms of the software that is built in, it seems you lose a lot by not having the ability to "browse", and to view several components of your system at once. ...Which for me brings up a more basic question. What is Smalltalk good for? I'd be very surprised if someone someday "OEM'd" a product with all the soft/firm ware written in Smalltalk. The only things I can think of is (a) education and (b) an environment in which you can work out some rough designs without worrying yet about the details of the final implementation. Jim Heliotis {allegra,seismo}!rochester!ritcv!jeh rocksvax!ritcv!jeh ritcv!jeh@Rochester