Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 6/7/83; site hao.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!ittvax!dcdwest!sdcsvax!bmcg!cepu!hao!hull From: hull@hao.UUCP Newsgroups: net.consumers,net.micro,net.periphs Subject: Re: Surge Protectors, Line Filters, and U.L. Ratings Message-ID: <1057@hao.UUCP> Date: Tue, 10-Jul-84 17:18:09 EDT Article-I.D.: hao.1057 Posted: Tue Jul 10 17:18:09 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 12-Jul-84 01:20:05 EDT References: <7816@umcp-cs.UUCP> Organization: High Altitude Obs./NCAR, Boulder CO Lines: 63 Yep. We have a surge protector of the bakelite-body class as part of a transient protection system at one of our mountain-top Solar Observatory sites. It was installed in 1978 and has self-destructed twice in the time since then - once a few months after installation, and again recently during the middle of the night while on local generator power. Each time, the body was blasted open, and a half-dollar size puck of bakelite ejected (presumably at less than Mach 1). Considerable smoke and flames followed, but since the device is installed inside a standard UL-approved NEMA enclosure, damage was limited to the interior of the box. In each case, the 60 Ampere entry circuit breaker place in the line ahead of the surge protector *did not trip*. HOWEVER, it finally dawned on us that in spite of the marvelous statistical reliability this package has shown, IF one of our observers or technicians just happened to be standing in front of the box with the lid off when this happened, the consequences would be very serious. The site is more than 40 miles from any hospital or medical services on a road which rental cars are specifically prohibited (by contract) from traveling. Replacement cost for the surge protector is $299.00, but for the observer/ technician it is substantially higher [due to the more sophisticated cognitive systems installed in the observer :-)] We are just beginning to discuss the matter with the manufacturer. It is presumed that UL would be primarily concerned with *A PREDICTABLY SAFE MANNER OF FAILURE, ONE WHICH WOULD CONTAIN THE BLAST AND FIRE, AND WHICH ALSO WOULD LEAVE EXTERNAL COMPONENTS IN AN ENVIRONMENT NO WORSE THAN WOULD BE EXPERIENCED IF THE SURGE PROTECTOR WERE NOT IN THE SYSTEM.* This would require a metal- cased device and fire-proof (probably expanded mica) cushion inside. The following is extracted from the Standard Handbook for Electrical Engineers, 11th Ed. Edited by Donald G. Fink (A McGraw Hill Publication). "UL. Underwriters Laboratories, Inc. 207 East Ohio Street, Chicago, Ill 60611, H. Baron Whitaker. Founded in 1894, UL is an independent, not-for-profit organization which maintains and operates laboratories for testing devices, systems, and materials with relation to public safety. Products so tested and meeting its requirements are eligible for UL 'listing.' UL maintains an inspection and follow-up program in factories where UL listed devices are manufactured. UL representatives conduct in-factory and in-the-field inspection of manufacturer's procedures for assuring production compliance with UL requirements. Such requirements appear in appropriate UL Standards for Safety which are developed by UL under procedures that involve consultation with industry and government experts and consumers, among others. Services available from UL include: UL's listing and follow-up service, applicable to products evaluated with respect hazards to life and property." ...Three other services itemized in the text... ...Relationship to government and organization of the lab discussed, & departments listed... "UL publishes (lists) the names of companies who have demonstrated the ability to provide products conforming to its requirements. Listing authorizes the manufacturer to use the Laboratories' listing mark(classification marking, recognition marking, or certificate) on the listed products. Underwriters Laboratories submits its standards to ANSI for adoption as American National Standards. It presently uses the canvass method almost exclusively to achieve national consensus. In addition, it is active in international standards, is represented on the Executive Committee of the USNC/IEC, and provides experts and technical advisors for developing U.S. positions for IEC and ISO committees." Regards, Howard Hull {ucbvax!hplabs | allegra!nbires | decvax!stcvax | harpo!seismo | ihnp4!stcvax} !hao!hull