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From: brianp@shark.UUCP (Brian Peterson)
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Subject: Re: Is god a bad example?
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Date: Sun, 22-Jul-84 21:16:32 EDT
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^  From: keith@seismo
^  

^  ...; also, there are
^  some fairly specific quotes reflecting that God's "ways" are *not* man's
^  way and that His way is superior.  From a layman's viewpoint, the ability
^  to judge God implies that God isn't God.  

So how do we KNOW that his ways are superior?  WHO says?  It can't be humans,
since   >God's "ways" are *not* man's way<   therefore since they are 
different, we are purely and simply unable to think about them.
(Why ever do you think that because something is different that you can't
think about it???)  If it is GOD who says his ways are superior, how
do YOU know?  We are unable to judge, since his ways are different.
What if he is lying to us?  You not only would never know (because you
refuse to think), you never would CARE.
 [what if a random person walked up to you and said "live life my way.
 It is superior.  Do not ask me why, because I am infinitely wise and 
 powerful, and therefore you can't know.  (by the way, can't God try to 
 explain his ways? If he is so smart, he should be a good teacher)  
 Would you trust this person? Devote your life to him (her)?  
 If not, why not?  What is the difference between this man and whatever it
 is in your religion that let's you trust your religion?????  ]


^  Quite frankly, *by definition*, if God exists, mankind doesn't know anything.

I know my name, how to tie my shoes, what 2+2 equals, etc.  Therefore,
God does not exist.  *by definition*     ;->



^  Saying that you plan to spend your time with God "chewing him out" seems
^  to be both naive and ridiculous.  

No, it doesn't.  Some people are put under the impression that God is
supposed to be good and loving, and then the world that they see contradicts
that impression.  Maybe they should be chewing out the earthly religions that
fed them those false impressions, but they are justified in their anger.



^				     Somehow it kind of reminds me of my
^  childhood; when I got furious with my parents for not doing what *I* wanted
^  them to do, usually because I just didn't understand/wasn't mature enough
^  to know what was going on.
   ...
^  	If as the Bible claims, God is really there,
^  	and really cares, well, then, it's just like being three; you 
^  	take your dad's advice blindly -- because you trust it more than
^  	your own.

Doesn't look like YOU did.  Do kids trust their parents, or not?
I'd say "sometimes".  The key thing, though, is what is the difference
between God and Daddy?  God doesn't physically manifest himself to say
"no, you can't play in the street"  whereas a father will carry his little
kid in off the street (we hope :-).  Is this enough difference?
Why do people trust this "god" notion?

		Brian Peterson	{ucbvax, ihnp4, }  !tektronix!shark!brianp