Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site cornell.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!houxm!houxz!vax135!cornell!gtaylor From: gtaylor@cornell.UUCP (Greg Taylor) Newsgroups: net.motss Subject: A new line.... Message-ID: <676@cornell.UUCP> Date: Fri, 29-Jun-84 09:45:13 EDT Article-I.D.: cornell.676 Posted: Fri Jun 29 09:45:13 1984 Date-Received: Sun, 1-Jul-84 04:36:59 EDT Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept. Lines: 42 You're right, Ms. Q: It does looks like net.motss looks like a forum for defense. But so is about every other interest group on the net. Besides, in the course of that defense, there *are* a few other things that get covered. I think I like your layout of the difference between pedophilia and homosexuality. Best guess is that the person who posted the original is from a religious tradition that puts the two together as either "morally unacceptable behaviour" or "something the Gentiles do, and we are enjoined to be different from them.: (this came from a posting about the Jewish prescriptions about Homosexuality that I posted to net.religion.jewish)" In part, my problem concerns the formulation of "persons of equal strength" argument. Steve Dyer recently posted a tale about a neighbor of his with whom he enjoyed a close relationship that teetered on the edge of a romantic involvement. That , I'd suppose, you'd think of as a situation of "unequal strength." How does that work with someone who is in a position of uncertainty as to their sexual preference? Say, someone who's going through something akin to Jeff Sargeant's crisis of self-worth. SUch a person might well be miserable either gay or straight, right? But does their present uncertainty qualify them as a person of "unequal strength?" I'm thinking of Auden and Benjamin Britten here (cf Humphrey Carpenter's biog of Auden). On what grounds does one assume responsibility for the actions of another insofar as they are in a position of being influenced? Do you a)lay out the best case for being straight *AND* being gay as best you can b)speak only for yourself and live with the possibility of coercion? c)stay out of it? You've certainly done your share of flaming back to Ken, but I *do* think I have the faintest whiff of a *moral* argument in the "unequal strength" formulation. Whatcha think? gtaylor