Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 6/7/83; site hao.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!ihnp4!zehntel!hplabs!hao!woods From: woods@hao.UUCP (Greg "Bucket" Woods) Newsgroups: net.singles,net.women,net.motss Subject: Re: Bigotry Message-ID: <1038@hao.UUCP> Date: Thu, 5-Jul-84 12:49:44 EDT Article-I.D.: hao.1038 Posted: Thu Jul 5 12:49:44 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 7-Jul-84 02:47:04 EDT References: <2569@allegra.UUCP> Organization: High Altitude Obs./NCAR, Boulder CO Lines: 28 I just want you to know, Alan, that I agree with you 1000%. There is no valid defense for bigotry. It seems that it's considered OK for minorities to say bigoted things about whites and/or males, but not the other way around. I don't like being called a macho asshole by someone who doesn't even know me, just because I happen to be a white male. Assuming that because someone is a member of group X, they must exhibit quality Y is the most basic form of prejudice. The fact that Trish is a lesbian has *nothing* to do with this issue. The fact that it is a member of a "minority" group being bigoted against the "majority", doesn't justify it. It is still bigotry and it still stinks. And it isn't necessary, either. I have known some lesbians who weren't bigots. I do *not* believe thay are all man-haters. If I did, then *I* would be guilty of bigotry. This whole thing has been clouded over with the (important, but irrelevant) issues of gay rights and women's rights. But they are just smokescreens. If Lori, Sophie etc. cannot see that this is a simple case of bigotry, then you aren't reading what we (Alan, Keith, myself, etc.) are saying. We are not objecting to someone being a lesbian, we are objecting to this "generic" hate of "most" men, based on a *very* small sample of the total population. It's time we got rid of this double standard. --Greg -- {ucbvax!hplabs | allegra!nbires | decvax!stcvax | harpo!seismo | ihnp4!stcvax} !hao!woods "Cherish well your thoughts, keep a tight grip on your booze 'Cause thinkin' and drinkin' are all I have today"