Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site pyuxv.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!pyuxww!pyuxv!peduto From: peduto@pyuxv.UUCP (S A Peduto) Newsgroups: net.motss Subject: History and Homosexuality Message-ID: <565@pyuxv.UUCP> Date: Mon, 9-Jul-84 13:08:51 EDT Article-I.D.: pyuxv.565 Posted: Mon Jul 9 13:08:51 1984 Date-Received: Tue, 10-Jul-84 01:57:04 EDT Organization: Bell Communications Research, Piscataway N.J. Lines: 15 Subject: Re: History and homosexuality References: <8442@brunix.UUCP>, <121@uwmacc.UUCP>, <356@pyuxss.UUCP> I would just like to reply a bit to the articles about homosexuality and social decline. As Gibbon makes clear, the Roman Empire fell after it had adopted Christianity as its official religion, and, incidentally, outlawed homosexual activity. This would seem to indicate that homophobia is the cause of the fall of states. Gibbon himself felt that Christianity caused the fall of the Empire. It should also be noted that ancient Greece had its greatest flowering during the period when homoerotic relationships were considered to be superior to hetero-erotic ones. When this aspect of Hellenic life passed, so did the "grandeur that was Greece." These historical facts should provide food for thought for those that blame Gayness or homo- eroticism for societial decline.