Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site fortune.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!cbosgd!ihnp4!fortune!crane From: crane@fortune.UUCP (John Crane) Newsgroups: net.motss Subject: Re: An Innocent (I think) Question Message-ID: <3837@fortune.UUCP> Date: Fri, 20-Jul-84 23:47:22 EDT Article-I.D.: fortune.3837 Posted: Fri Jul 20 23:47:22 1984 Date-Received: Sun, 22-Jul-84 01:39:28 EDT References: <3760@fortune.UUCP>, <440@teldata.UUCP> Organization: Fortune Systems, Redwood City, CA Lines: 32 I agree with a lot of what you said. However, you did NOT answer my question. My question was not whether or not gays should have special rights encoded in the law, but: how religious groups can justify ACTIVELY FIGHTING Gay rights legislation on the grounds that they consider the Gay lifestyle (whatever that is) to be MORALLY WRONG. As for counselors and teachers being gay, the question is not whether we should allow them (for they already exist in abundance), but the question is what if one of them decides to "come out" or is "discovered"? Can they legally be fired? Employment right legislation would ensure that they could not be fired simply because they are gay. Also, I know of no gay counselor or teacher who is actively or even passively recruiting anybody into their ranks. You are either gay or straight or somewhere in between. Nobody recruits you either way. You just ARE. I am the father of four children. I try to teach them right and wrong (as I see it) in the home. I then have to trust that they have minds of their own and will make the right decisions when they are out in the world being exposed to any number of different ideas and lifestyles. If they later in life decide that my teachings are wrong and somebody else's are right, then so be it. They are intelligent beings and have the ability and freedom to have their own opinions. So much for gay teachers and counselors. John Crane