Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utcsrgv.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcsrgv!elf From: elf@utcsrgv.UUCP (Eugene Fiume) Newsgroups: net.music,net.music.classical Subject: Re: Why classical music isn't popular: new theory!!! Message-ID: <4942@utcsrgv.UUCP> Date: Wed, 18-Jul-84 15:48:56 EDT Article-I.D.: utcsrgv.4942 Posted: Wed Jul 18 15:48:56 1984 Date-Received: Wed, 18-Jul-84 17:23:29 EDT References: <3900@tekecs.UUCP>, <3805@fortune.UUCP> <2610@allegra.UUCP>, <867@pyuxn.UUCP> Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto Lines: 30 This discussion has the potential of becoming exceedingly stupid. Nevertheless I have to point out the obvious: classical music is often found in very popular pieces. Sometimes they are quoted directly (very often without credit--listen to the Bach ripoffs in old Procol Harem and Jethro Tull and lottsa jazz groups). Sometimes the borrowing is less direct (e.g. early Genesis vs. various Bach preludes). And why is it that synthesiser versions of classical pieces become so popular (e.g. W. Carlos, Tomita, Synergy, ELP)? Popular music throughout this century has made a practice of borrowing classical music themes. Sometimes the results are nice, but other times it's so offensive it causes nausea (e.g. a recent popular song called "Midnight Blue" or some such craziness, which is a horrible vocalisation of the best-known movement from Beethoven's best-known piano sonata). The best rock borrowing of classical (well, baroque) music I have ever heard is by an Italian group called RDM, who, in an album translated as "Contamination", work wonders with some Bach pieces. (It's on RCA (ugh); buy the import if you're interested.) It was pointed out elsewhere that classical pieces aren't necessarily long. Great examples of pieces that say what they have to say in 4-6 minutes are Chopin's nocturnes. A touch sentimental, perhaps, but much more interesting that your standard MOR/AOR ballad. For something more modern, try George Winston's Autumn or December albums. It's not exactly classical or jazz or pop, but it is just the stuff to open a few ears. I've recommended only piano works in this paragraph because it's one of the few "crossover" instruments. Eugene Fiume U of Toronto