Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!mcnc!ecsvax!dgary From: dgary@ecsvax.UUCP Newsgroups: net.philosophy Subject: Re: Whither Are We Drifting Message-ID: <2872@ecsvax.UUCP> Date: Mon, 9-Jul-84 17:19:18 EDT Article-I.D.: ecsvax.2872 Posted: Mon Jul 9 17:19:18 1984 Date-Received: Wed, 11-Jul-84 03:40:42 EDT References: denelcor.490 Lines: 39 <> >From: neal@denelcor.UUCP (Neal Weidenhofer) Wed Jun 27 22:58:02 1984 > Who said anything about "wealthy"? There is no tax (at least at >the federal level) on _wealth_, the tax is on _income_ -- _earned_income_ at that. > Neal Weidenhofer Actually, the tax is on income, period. Capital gains (assets held more than a certain time period and then sold) are taxed at a lower rate. The tax on earned income is limited to a maximum rate, something Johnny Carson and I are grateful for. Neal also auggests that American productivity problems are related to our tax rate and our welfare system, i.e. that people have little reason to produce if it will be taxed away from them, and no one absolutely HAS to work thanks to the welfare system. Considering the recent outburst of entrepreneurism (that started about 6 years ago, so you can't completely credit the Reagan tax cut), this seems unlikely. Moreover, our productivity is not better than, say, Sweden, which has a more "progressive" tax structure (meaning that it cranks up rates on the high end more than we do, not that it is necessarily better) and a bigger "welfare" system. I suspect our productivity problems are more complex than this and relate to poor levels of capital outlay and shortsighted management. I might also ask how suddenly employing a bunch of these indolent welfare bums we seem to be imagining is going to help us improve productivity. And then there's robotics. There's a fair chance that automation may really automate a good fraction of the work force out of jobs; then what do we do? Let 'em starve? Give up automation? What if we really DO need far fewer workers than there are adults, and well-trained workers at that? I see it now: Robots versus Libertarians... D Gary Grady Duke University Computation Center, Durham, NC 27706 (919) 684-4146 USENET: {decvax,ihnp4,akgua,etc.}!mcnc!ecsvax!dgary