Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 (Tek) 9/26/83; site shark.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!ihnp4!drutx!houxe!hogpc!houti!ariel!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!orca!shark!brianp From: brianp@shark.UUCP Newsgroups: net.philosophy Subject: Re: Free Will. Free Lunch. Free Software. Message-ID: <905@shark.UUCP> Date: Fri, 20-Jul-84 22:08:02 EDT Article-I.D.: shark.905 Posted: Fri Jul 20 22:08:02 1984 Date-Received: Sun, 22-Jul-84 03:24:57 EDT References: <2140@dartvax.UUCP>, <843@pyuxn.UUCP> <443@houca.UUCP>, <854@pyuxn.UUCP> Organization: Tektronix, Wilsonville OR Lines: 25 From: rlr@pyuxn.UUCP (Rich Rosen) + Not really. Christians seem to believe that god is omniscient (knows what + was/is/will be happening everywhere), yet they also make a claim for free + will, stating that it is your "choice" based on the actions you "choose" + whether you go to eternal bliss or eternal damnation. I have yet to hear + a satisfactory explanation for this apparent contradiction. This isn't a contradiction. This means that god is just going to sit there and let you fuck up, and then watch you burn in hell. + > Taking it a step further, we will know everything about every + > organism, most + > importantly, the *exact* function of its brain. We would know more about + > that creature than it would know about itself. Continuing with the logic, + > The best argument against this theory is that there exists 'free will' in + > life forms. WHERE DID IT COME FROM? Did the physics of the universe form + > free will? I don't think so. What if this critter is you? You have to consider yourself (part of the family... :-) in your picture of the world. Go talk to Godel. Would a random number generator help in making free will? Aren't there totally random events in physics? Nuclei splitting, electrons jumping through tunnel diodes, the direction a newborn particle and its anti go in (after subtracting motion of creator particles)? Brian Peterson {ucbvax, ihnp4, } !tektronix!shark!brianp