Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site brl-vgr.ARPA Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!mcnc!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!brl-tgr!brl-vgr!gwyn From: gwyn@brl-vgr.ARPA (Doug Gwyn ) Newsgroups: net.philosophy,net.sci,net.misc Subject: Re: Mind and Brain Message-ID: <508@brl-vgr.ARPA> Date: Sat, 30-Jun-84 01:46:38 EDT Article-I.D.: brl-vgr.508 Posted: Sat Jun 30 01:46:38 1984 Date-Received: Mon, 2-Jul-84 00:40:28 EDT References: <1396@proper.UUCP>, <856@shark.UUCP>, <1413@proper.UUCP> Organization: Ballistics Research Lab Lines: 24 Any attempt to explain to a fellow what is meant by "mind" necessarily assumes that he has one. This is not a triviality, but an example of a general situation called the "stolen concept" by Nathaniel Branden many years ago. A concept is stolen if it is used in an attempt to discredit it, especially if its use cannot be avoided in any such attempt. This is a good indication that the concept is of something truly fundamental. To the fellow who defies anyone to demonstrate what is meant by "mind": Your mind is what you used in evaluating the above paragraph when you read it. Certain hardware such as your eyes and brain were definitely involved (blind people may have used some sense other than vision), but mind is the result of functioning of a brain, not the brain itself. Processes can have a reality without being classed the same as concrete existents. This whole subject area belongs to the branch of philosophy known as Epistemology, the study of what knowledge consists of and how it is acquired. Of course, philosophers are generally held in (well-deserved) disdain, since they seem to have produced more confusion about these things than real understanding. The best discussion of conceptualization that I have seen is Ayn Rand's "Introduction to Objectivist Epistemology" (available from Palo Alto Book Service, and perhaps reprinted elsewhere, I don't recall).