Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site proper.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!mgnetp!ihnp4!zehntel!dual!proper!gam From: gam@proper.UUCP (Gordon Moffett) Newsgroups: net.philosophy,net.sci,net.misc Subject: Re: Mind and Brain Message-ID: <1396@proper.UUCP> Date: Fri, 22-Jun-84 23:37:00 EDT Article-I.D.: proper.1396 Posted: Fri Jun 22 23:37:00 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 28-Jun-84 02:38:52 EDT References: <769@pyuxn.UUCP>, <838@shark.UUCP> Organization: Proper UNIX, Oakland, CA Lines: 22 Keywords: behaviorism,brain,mind,Plato,dead greeks "subconsious", "mind", etc -- what DO these words mean? More importantly, do these things exist? I assert they do not. I take the behaviorist philosophy that what you call "mind" is a thing invented by Plato or some dead Greek person which is just as mystical and unreal as "the Gods" or "magic." What you have is a brain. What you do is behavior. You are an organism that responds to AND IS CHANGED BY your environment. That's all. The rest you've made up or assumed was true because some dead greek person said it was there. Show me your "mind" -- demonstrate its existence. I dare you. (oh dear, he's doing it again ...) -- Gordon A. Moffett { hplabs!nsc, decvax!sun!amd, ihnp4!dual } !proper!gam