Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: Notesfiles; site uok.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!mgnetp!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!uok!dwhitney From: dwhitney@uok.UUCP Newsgroups: net.sf-lovers Subject: Re: Movies in general - (nf) Message-ID: <7600011@uok.UUCP> Date: Sun, 1-Jul-84 18:08:00 EDT Article-I.D.: uok.7600011 Posted: Sun Jul 1 18:08:00 1984 Date-Received: Wed, 4-Jul-84 03:24:02 EDT References: <1223@sri-arpa.UUCP> Lines: 37 Nf-ID: #R:sri-arpa:-122300:uok:7600011:000:1531 Nf-From: uok!dwhitney Jul 1 17:08:00 1984 #R:sri-arpa:-122300:uok:7600011:000:1531 uok!dwhitney Jul 1 17:08:00 1984 "ST3 reached an end. I hope. The adventure continues. Pah." So says "-steve" Of couse, he also says SW had a story to tell. Right. Good guys blast bad guys (in black, of course). But bad guys not dead. Bad guys come back in next film and beat up good guys. But good guys not all dead, hero of good guys wants to blast baddest bad guy, but decides not to. Bad guy decides hes good guys father. Thats storytelling?? Please. Thats Gunsmoke 2300. Or Bonanza 2001. In my humble opinion, ST has always been head-and-shoulders above the other SF films in characters devleopment. Kirk must make sacrifice; his ship, or his son (and hostages), or Genesis planet. Kirk faces death; (Spock, of course), and deal with his new son (In st2). Spock confesses his humanity (ST1). You see, ST at its (supposed) worst can outtell SW in storytelling ANYDAY, and just because it doesnt spend half its time with aliens-blasting-aliens in an SPFX budget that makes ILM drool, doesn't make SW holy ground. If were lucky, and if SF is lucky, the Trek adventure WiILL continue for at least one more good movie. Its just about the only thing that keeps SF alive in hollywood, or gives it so much as a thread of credibility. Why? Look at the alternatives- Speilberg blows up Gremlins and Grandmothers, while ripping out hearts and beating children in IJTOD, Conan flexes muscle and mumbles monosyllabic English while Grace Jones beats people with a stick. Flame away. David Whitney Star Trek forever !ctvax!uokvax!uok!dwhitney