Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: Notesfiles; site ea.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!ea!mwm From: mwm@ea.UUCP Newsgroups: net.sf-lovers Subject: Re: Movies in general - (nf) Message-ID: <11700013@ea.UUCP> Date: Mon, 2-Jul-84 11:44:00 EDT Article-I.D.: ea.11700013 Posted: Mon Jul 2 11:44:00 1984 Date-Received: Wed, 11-Jul-84 00:24:42 EDT References: <1223@sri-arpa.UUCP> Lines: 39 Nf-ID: #R:sri-arpa:-122300:ea:11700013:000:1590 Nf-From: ea!mwm Jul 2 10:44:00 1984 #R:sri-arpa:-122300:ea:11700013:000:1590 ea!mwm Jul 2 10:44:00 1984 /***** ea:net.sf-lovers / uok!dwhitney / 5:08 pm Jul 1, 1984 */ >If were lucky, and if SF is lucky, the Trek adventure WILL continue >for at least one more good movie. So, counting that one and the one after that, that would be a total of two good movies, right? The first one was awful. The second one was a good ST episode, meaning it was good for SF done by Hollywood. The third one was laughable - right up there with "The Creature of Crater Lake," only with better effects. >Its just about the only thing that >keeps SF alive in hollywood, or gives it so much as a thread of >credibility. Since when is SF alive in Hollywood? Let's see, lately we've had some *bad* fantasy (Conan & company), a *good* horror film (Alien) and some excellent humor (Galaxina, Ghostbusters) that were at best tolerable SF, and one movie (Bladerunner) that was good SF but a mediocre movie. Star Wars was all right, but the plot line occasionally got in the way of the movie. At first, they didn't have any pretensions: it was Space Opera, pure and simple. It was even good Space Opera, though it was lousy SF. The second one tried to do character development, and it sorta fell apart. Some day, I'm going to see the third one. Next, we have _Have Spacesuit, Will Travel_, uh, excuse me, that's The Last Starfighter. It looks like it could be as good as the first SW movie, *if* they can avoid trying to make it something it isn't. It will still be a good movie that's lousy SF, though. I'll give a full report on it after I see it. >Star Trek forever Probably. Undead are hard to kill.