Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!ittvax!dcdwest!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!hplabs!sri-unix!duntemann.wbst@XEROX.ARPA From: duntemann.wbst@XEROX.ARPA Newsgroups: net.sf-lovers Subject: Constructed as in BUILT, guys... Message-ID: <1542@sri-arpa.UUCP> Date: Tue, 3-Jul-84 05:16:09 EDT Article-I.D.: sri-arpa.1542 Posted: Tue Jul 3 05:16:09 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 14-Jul-84 13:21:49 EDT Lines: 36 No, no! You got it wrong! When I spoke of "constructed worlds" I meant more than just "built systematically in the head of a writer." I meant a planet or planet-sized thingie which was put together out of whole cloth or reworked wholesale (a la Riverworld) for some purpose. L5 tincan worlds like Rosinante and Bova's Colony are small change. I mean BIIIIG. Ringworld. Cuckoo. Riverworld. Gaea. Artifacts or complete crustal reconstructions. Did I miss any? And Tom Godwin is, of course, famous for "The Cold Equations," a story I never bought anyway. It's been 20 years since I read it, but it seems as though they could have unbolted a chair and thrown in out the door instead of the girl. What we in the trade call "idiot plot." There was a Hal Clement story I didn't see on that list: "Seasoning," which was part of a rather silly series of "shared world" stories surrounding a planet which Harlan Ellison designed (not built.) It was in IASFM about four years ago, and involved baloon creatures and a supercomputer named Black Diamond (chummily referred to as "Beedee.") Definitely minor Clement, but if you're a completist... By the way, did that anthology (called MEDEA: Harlan's World) ever hit print? None of the stories fit in with any of the others; some made the baloon things intelligent and some did not; one writer gave them the ability to move about at will like dirigibles without saying how; stuff like that. A mess, like most anything Harlan gets his fingers into. Illigitimati non carborundum, you latin hacks-- --Jeff Duntemann The Carbon Filament Rat duntemann.wbst@xerox