Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!alice!research!dmr From: dmr@research.UUCP Newsgroups: net.unix Subject: Marketing Unix Message-ID: <1034@research.UUCP> Date: Sat, 30-Jun-84 03:07:15 EDT Article-I.D.: research.1034 Posted: Sat Jun 30 03:07:15 1984 Date-Received: Sun, 1-Jul-84 06:38:24 EDT Lines: 28 Remarks are already rolling in on the LA Times article quoted by Will Martin; here's a reaction from one who observed the process. 1) It's a fact that fees for universities for all licenses through 32V (and thus through 4.2BSD) are negligible, and though lawyers and pedants may cringe at the phrase "give away thousands of copies ... to students" this was the effect. System III and V educational licenses are a lot more, but still, I think, pretty cheap. "Dozens" of universities understates; "hundreds" is more accurate. 2) There can be little quarrel with the assertion that this licensing policy was essential to the market success of Unix. 3) To suggest that the popularity of Unix (let's ignore the past year or so when national ads began to appear) owes to clever marketing is sheer lunacy. Imagine the fate of the hot young marketeer who advises "Well, let's test it for 8 years in the universities at below-cost prices. Think of the brand loyalty we'll build." The fact is that we had to fight every step of the way to get Unix out the door. The usual argument against each release was: if this stuff is really good, our competitors (yes, AT&T saw competitors even well before divestiture) will take it and use it against us! As it happened, the sensible people mostly won. However, any resemblance between the actual process and what is commonly thought of as marketing is distinctly coincidental. Dennis Ritchie