Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site decwrl.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!ihnp4!zehntel!dual!decwrl!dec-rhea!dec-amber!chabot From: chabot@amber.DEC (Lisa Chabot) Newsgroups: net.women.only Subject: Polling women about Sturgeon Message-ID: <2117@decwrl.UUCP> Date: Thu, 28-Jun-84 10:04:22 EDT Article-I.D.: decwrl.2117 Posted: Thu Jun 28 10:04:22 1984 Date-Received: Sun, 1-Jul-84 03:37:47 EDT Organization: DEC Engineering Network Lines: 32 I would like to hear from women who have read works by Theodore Sturgeon: can you tell me your reactions to it? Also, I am curious to hear any tales of women citing "Sturgeon's Law". Here are my reactions: I tried it, I didn't like it--I found the stories I read to be lacking in the far-reaching insight implied by recommendations of friends or other science fiction readers. I also found enough distasteful sexism to keep me from wanting to read more. Quoting "Sturgeon's Law" (which says something on the order of 90% of everything is crap) is done as a demonstration of sophistication and worldliness; the sophistication comes, as it does in science fiction and other literary forms, from showing that one is well-read, the worldliness from the cynicism of the statement. Of the times I have heard the law quoted, I can only think of men saying it. It is possible that women, brought up to be "nice" and soft-spoken, choke over "crap", but "garbage" could be substituted without dilluting the force much--however, perhaps the cynicism is what women choke over? I'm an old cynic, and my mouth hasn't been clean since I landed in Massachusetts; I don't spout "Sturgeon's Law" because I don't think it's worth saying for either its wit or philosophical weight. If any women out there are still reading, and can call up the courage to drop the "nice girl" behavior and shout across this flood of men what you think of Sturgeon and what you say of Sturgeon (good, bad, indifferent, agreeable, or >gasp< disagreeable), I need it. Thanks, L S Chabot UUCP: ...decwrl!dec-rhea!dec-amber!chabot ARPA: ...chabot%amber.DEC@decwrl.ARPA USFail: DEC, MR03-1/K20, 2 Iron Way, Marlborough, MA 01752