Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 UW 5/3/83; site uw-beaver Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!houxm!houxa!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!info-mac From: info-mac@uw-beaver (info-mac) Newsgroups: fa.info-mac Subject: Re: Upgrading your own MAC memory Message-ID: <1256@uw-beaver> Date: Thu, 19-Jul-84 13:41:45 EDT Article-I.D.: uw-beaver>.1256 Posted: Thu Jul 19 13:41:45 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 20-Jul-84 04:35:39 EDT Sender: daemon@uw-beave Organization: U of Washington Computer Science Lines: 31 From: David Chase I can't stand it any longer. I think people planning to do their own 512k upgrades are crazy. 1) Who will fix a Mac that has been user-munged? (What crazed fool would offer to maintain a Mac when the user doodles with the innards?) 2) What will you do when the repairman wants to do a board swap? Tear out all the 256K chips so you can reinstall them in the replacement board? 3) I recommend against installing sockets because of bad thermal properties; chips will tend to die faster (and the Mac is already very hot inside). I have had some experience with this, using socketed Mostek memory and soldered DEC memory in a VAX 11/780. The Mostek boards (2.5 Meg of 16K chips) would lose about 10 chips per year; the DEC boards (1.5 Meg) lost maybe 1 chip every two years (wert.pa@xerox.arpa may correct me on this). The 780 ran MUCH cooler than the Mac, so I don't expect chip life in the Macintosh to be any better (though there aren't as many chips to break). 4) Adding more chips inside the Mac is also a loser, because you may cook the insides with the additional heat load. 5) If you must attack your Mac after all this, consider CMOS memory instead. It uses practically no power and runs very cool. While you are changing things, go whole hog and add a battery backup to your memory so that (maybe) the Mac need never be rebooted (you'll need to suppress the reset that probably comes from a power-up). It does cost a little bit more, but so it goes. (Note - I have a friend who worked on the HP Nomad, so I am right now a big fan of CMOS). drc