Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: Notesfiles; site ctvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!cbosgd!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!ctvax!jmiller From: jmiller@ctvax.UUCP Newsgroups: net.ai Subject: Re: Objection to Crane: A Quick Question - (nf) Message-ID: <45200003@ctvax.UUCP> Date: Mon, 2-Jul-84 12:11:00 EDT Article-I.D.: ctvax.45200003 Posted: Mon Jul 2 12:11:00 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 5-Jul-84 00:21:06 EDT References: <1138@sri-arpa.UUCP> Lines: 18 Nf-ID: #R:sri-arpa:-113800:ctvax:45200003:000:853 Nf-From: ctvax!jmiller Jul 2 11:11:00 1984 #R:sri-arpa:-113800:ctvax:45200003:000:853 ctvax!jmiller Jul 2 11:11:00 1984 As noted by others, we're talking about experiments by Penfield here. Pretty much any intro psychology book should be able to point you in the right direction, but be careful about taking them too seriously. Followup experiments by others did not always replicate Penfields findings, and these often failed in problematic ways -- people reported hearing both sides of a telephone conversation, or doing things or being places that could be disconfirmed in independent ways. The effects that could most reliably be replicated were those that suggesting that sensory pathways were getting activated by the stimulation: reports of pure tones or flashes of monochrome light were very common. Penfield's work was certanly interesting, but the current attitude is that there was a little less there than first appeared. Jim Miller Computer Thought, Dallas