Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 Fluke 1/4/84; site fluke.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!mgnetp!ihnp4!houxm!houxz!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!microsoft!fluke!fudd From: fudd@fluke.UUCP (Mark Freeman) Newsgroups: net.audio Subject: Re: Tubes/bipolar/FETs Message-ID: <1073@vax2.fluke.UUCP> Date: Fri, 29-Jun-84 11:14:11 EDT Article-I.D.: vax2.1073 Posted: Fri Jun 29 11:14:11 1984 Date-Received: Wed, 4-Jul-84 03:29:06 EDT References: <494@drutx.UUCP> <2887@rabbit.UUCP> <515@drutx.UUCP> <566@opus.UUCP> <1203@ihuxl.UUCP> Organization: John Fluke Mfg. Co., Everett, WA Lines: 41 --- This is a reply to some comments by D.A. Seifert: power-FETs are supposed to have some of the 'good' qualities of tubes. One of these is 'soft-clipping'. Another spec that came out about the time power-FETs did is TIM (and its siblings). FETs tend to be fast and have good bandwidth/low TIM. Are there any other theories of why FETs sound better than bipolars? Anyone think bipolars sound better than FETs? The advantages of FET's over bipolars that I am aware of are: 1) They are positive temperature coefficient devices. This is mainly an aid to designers. 2) They are faster devices. This may help increase slew rate. 3) They are closer to linear devices. This is probably a more important factor in reducing TIM. When slew-rate limiting was "discovered" by the audio industry, high loop gain was identified as the culprit. FET's are square-law devices (and V-FET's are are almost linear devices), and so allow less feedback for the same level of distortion. Some designers have gone to the extreme of "no feedback" (well, each stage has its own feedback), to prevent the evil TIM from appearing. When monolithic op-amps with FET inputs appeared, they were noted for their fast slew rate. But not for the reasons you might expect. They were fast because the FET's had lower gain than the bipolars they replaced. This allowed the miller capacitor in the voltage gain stage to be reduced, and delayed the onset of saturation of the first stage (the cause of slew rate limiting). An excellent article about this subject, from someone at National, I believe, appeared around 1975. I can dig it up, if you really want to get into this subject.