Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 (Tek) 9/26/83; site vice.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!cbosgd!ihnp4!houxm!houxz!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!tekchips!vice!shauns From: shauns@vice.UUCP (Shaun Simpkins) Newsgroups: net.audio Subject: FET preamps vs. Bipolar vs. Relays vs. Message-ID: <1363@vice.UUCP> Date: Tue, 3-Jul-84 12:37:18 EDT Article-I.D.: vice.1363 Posted: Tue Jul 3 12:37:18 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 5-Jul-84 00:19:28 EDT Organization: Tektronix, Beaverton OR Lines: 35 Something really bugs me about statements like, to paraphrase Phil R., "FET amps shouldn't sound different than Bipolar amps. What does reality tell us?". How would one go about this normally? Well, I'd just get a FET amp from one manufacturer, a Bipolar amp from another, equalize levels, listen, and judge, right? Uh, no. What we're trying to do here is discern the differences between active elements. By taking two different amps from two different manufacturers, I guarantee you that we've also taken two different amplifier topologies, beyond that needed to take into account biasing differences. I bet you what we hear first is gross differences in system configuration, not active elements. What I would consider a more valid test of active elements is: 1) decide on a common amplifier configuration, say basic Op-Amp - high-gain stage followed by level shift followed by low impedance output driver; 2) determine biasing requirements for each active element; 3) mix, match, and listen appropriately. By blindly listening to different amps from different manufacturers, all we can really say is, if a particular amplifier sounds better to us, it is because that amp's designer did a better job of minimizing the transfer elements' imperfections. We can't say that active element X is better than active element Y - we haven't isolated all the variables. Comments? The wandering squash, -- Shaun Simpkins uucp: {ucbvax,decvax,chico,pur-ee,cbosg,ihnss}!teklabs!tekcad!vice!shauns CSnet: shauns@tek ARPAnet:shauns.tek@rand-relay