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From: tac@teldata.UUCP ()
Newsgroups: net.flame
Subject: Re: "Re: Disgusted by Smokers - (nf)"
Message-ID: <419@teldata.UUCP>
Date: Mon, 9-Jul-84 11:29:35 EDT
Article-I.D.: teldata.419
Posted: Mon Jul  9 11:29:35 1984
Date-Received: Tue, 10-Jul-84 02:51:16 EDT
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Organization: Teltone Corp., Kirkland, WA
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, (sop to the blank line eaters--consider it a religious sacrifice)

>>  When I finally get a house (of my own), I've considered just not having
>>  ashtrays at all (well, maybe one hidden away real good in case I
>>  want to burn some incense...).  I've been debating on what to do when
>>  someone asks for one, however.  I was thinking of telling them just
>>  to drop the ashes on the floor to see how they react (hopefully it will
>>  make them real self-conscious and uncomfortable...)  Has anyone out
>>  there ever tried anything like this?
>>  -- 
>>  Randwulf  (Randy Haskins);  Path= genrad!mit-eddie!rh
>>  [Have I REALLY been reading this stuff for a year???]
>>  
Randy,
  I have seen too many smokers just drop their ashes on the floor when they
couldn't *EASILY* see an ashtray to have any faith in your suggestion.  When
I lived on a boat I made them go up on deck to smoke (wood picks up and
keeps odors and neither my wife nor I smoke).  I would give them a can or a
bottle to use for an ashtray and still wound up with ashes on the deck.  
Now that I live in a house (cedar and it smells great without smoke added),
I make them go outside.  I now find cigarette butts in the yard the next
day (when they threw them overboard on the boat the tide washed them away).
Smokers as a class (not necessarily as individules) have got to be one of
the most thoughtless and inconsiderate groups there is.  If someone lights
up in my car/house/boat/etc. I'll put it out in his ear!

<< FLAME ON >>
There is nothing so egocentric as the attitude that "The world
is my ashtray!"
EVEN WITHOUT THE CIGARETTES THERE WILL STILL BE BUTTS!!!
<< FLAME OFF >>

From the Soapbox (for cleaning ashes off) of
Tom Condon     {...!uw-beaver!teltone!teldata!tac}

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