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From: guy@rlgvax.UUCP (Guy Harris)
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Subject: Re: VMS vs. U-No-What-ix
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Date: Wed, 25-Jul-84 01:30:56 EDT
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Posted: Wed Jul 25 01:30:56 1984
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> VMS wont run on a PDP, and a certain PDP operating system (think how
> much fun UN*X would be if you could just overmap the i/o page!)

You can, at least on V7.  See PHYS(2).

> won't run on the VAX.  DEC operating systems take advantage of
> all of the capabilities of its system, such as speed (yes! SPEED!)
> memory management, and other resources.

Gee, the UNIX I'm doing this on supports the VAX-11 memory management
hardware to its full extent - it even supports features the hardware
doesn't have, like reference bits :-).

> Does UN*X have anything that even comes close to DECNET? Somehow
> I doubt it.

Yes.  It's called TCP/IP and their friends FTP, SMTP, TELNET, etc. -
and they're not proprietary.  (And, according to the people at Lawrence
Berkeley Labs, they're more efficient on UNIX than DECNET is on VMS.)
 
> I'll now leave the floor open for more discussion, though I
> want to say one more thing--Don't tell me about all of the
> obscure bugs in VMS version 1.1!!! I'm more than certian that
> the first (and second, and third) versions of UN*X had a whole
> mess of fun bugs.  I dont want to hear about tape drivers which
> crash on alternating Tuesdays if the temperature is exactly
> 65.2 degrees farenheit and the Line Printer is using red ink.

Some bugs in considerably later versions of VMS have been listed...

	Guy Harris
	{seismo,ihnp4,allegra}!rlgvax!guy