Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83 SMI; site sun.uucp Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!ihnp4!zehntel!dual!amd!decwrl!sunny From: sunny@sun.uucp (Sunny Kirsten) Newsgroups: net.flame Subject: Re: Gun Control again... A Position Paper Message-ID: <1565@sun.uucp> Date: Sun, 22-Jul-84 23:21:28 EDT Article-I.D.: sun.1565 Posted: Sun Jul 22 23:21:28 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 28-Jul-84 19:24:37 EDT References: <859@pucc-h> <898@pyuxa.UUCP> <801@ihuxp.UUCP> Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. Lines: 34 unGreetings: I never thought guns were useful until I moved from the L.A. megalopolis to the hills, whereupon I realise that even should I want the police present, that it would take them a minimum half hour to arrive at my doorstep after I *successfully* got a phone call through to them to which they *successfully* responded (presuming the threat against which I summoned them had *not* already cut the phone line). I can't think of any crime which couldn't be perpetrated successfully, and the burgler long gone by the time the police arrived. One has to decide whether one wishes to be at all times at the whim of any criminal who arrives, or whether one has the balls to stand up for one's God-given, and constitutionally guaranteed rights to protect oneself and one's loved ones from death and/or destruction by some scumbag who's already been in and out of jail a number of times, and who will NEVER have any trouble obtaining black market guns. If the life of your average street scumbag is worth more to you than the health of your wife/daughter/son/husband/dog, then you always have the option of NOT owning a gun. He'p ya'se'f. If you like gun control, move to some communist country where you aren't allowed to possess a gun. meanwhile, the US constitution guarantees the right to KEEP AND BEAR arms, to every citizen of the US, even dummies like you. and yes, even to dummies who don't have the common sense to keep their guns away from their children, or to otherwise train their children about guns. Money and insurance are not the issue. Illegal use of force against law-abiding citizens is the reason for every citizen to own a gun. Taking them out of the hands of the average citizen will NOT, EVER, stop the burgler from getting one on the black market. The US government has NEVER been able to stop the influx of alcohol (ref: U.S. Prohibition which didn't work), drugs, or guns into this country, and never will. GUN CONTROL is the first step to a totally FASCIST POLICE STATE. You must REALLY love BIG BROTHER. {ucbvax|decvax|ihnp4}!sun!sunny(Sunny Kirsten of Sun Microsystems)