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From: steven@qubix.UUCP (Steven Maurer)
Newsgroups: net.games.frp
Subject: Re: using wishes to permanent spells
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Date: Tue, 3-Jul-84 03:47:42 EDT
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Posted: Tue Jul  3 03:47:42 1984
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>>  How come you just don't come out and cuss?  I mean, "bullshit" is
>>  so much more refreshing than your tame "bullsh*t".  It's a bit less
>>  hypocritical too.

	Once upon a time in netland, there was a wise, but foolish young
    prince, who accidently wrote down the F-word, and sent it to
    net.general.   He had actually meant to write the F*-word, but somehow
    the keyboard slipped, and that is not what was sent.  Because of this,
    many dragons visited the poor unfortunate prince, and flamed him
    royally, again and again.   So now he makes sure not to offend anybody
    anywhere, since no one likes to get 20 flame-mails a day.


>>  Unfortunately, Mr. Gygax (who has made some pretty bad rulings)
>>  is essentially saying "I'll crock the wish if I don't like
>>  it's effects".  Something silly, or something that had screwy
>>  effects can have almost an unlimited source of "power" in his
>>  world.  Of course, any attempt to research a spell to duplicate
>>  this effect would be laughed out of any reasonable game.  That
>>  kind of stuff gives D&D a real bad name.
>>
>>  This doesn't mean everybody who plays D&D has to dogmatically
>>  follow Mr. Gygax.  I don't appreciate that implication, Mr. Maurer!

	True, but then again, if you don't, you are not playing AD&D.
    This is not according to me, this is according to Gary ("the
    plagerist") Gygax himself.    While I appreciate the fact that you
    (a presumably good referee) can make AD&D a good game with heavy
    modifications, I don't appreciate the fact that it is not a good
    game to begin with.    When D&D first came out this was all right,
    since there was no other system around.  Now, however, you have a
    large number of options, of which almost all (excluding T&T) are
    better in the basic system.

	So why is it better to have a good basic system?   For the same
    reason that an OS should work well when you first buy it: First,
    I don't like having to make extensive modifications to the rules,
    and Second, as a player, I enjoy having my characters be portable
    between different referees (DMs).   If one referee plays a rule,
    or spell, completely differently than the way I am used to playing
    it, it totally ruins my sense of disbelief and can proove fatal to
    my character.   This is why I dislike AD&D, as a system.

Steven Maurer                   sun!qubix!steven