Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!mgnetp!ihnp4!houxm!houxz!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!hplabs!sdcrdcf!sdcsvax!akgua!mcnc!decvax!cca!ima!inmet!jmd From: jmd@inmet.UUCP Newsgroups: net.games.frp Subject: Re: Dealing with Illusions - (nf) Message-ID: <1614@inmet.UUCP> Date: Fri, 13-Jul-84 05:04:52 EDT Article-I.D.: inmet.1614 Posted: Fri Jul 13 05:04:52 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 19-Jul-84 02:14:43 EDT Lines: 36 #R:qantel:-14300:inmet:20400006:000:1906 inmet!jmd Jul 11 14:25:00 1984 I must disagree with one point that you make. Your claim is that illusions are sight-oriented. The best-known spells, as described in the PH, are, indeed, sight-based. This is why the AD&D illusionist is so poorly designed. First, illusionists are primarily mind-control experts - creating an illusion that you BELIEVE is so real that it can hurt you. Second, this illusion usually has sight components, but doesn't have to to be effective. It could affect any one of the other four senses (or some combination of all of the senses) to have a similar effect. This is where the AD&D illusionist is so lacking in ability. Why can't an illusionist create the illusion of the smell of a dragon - strong enough to make you think that there is a BIG dragon there - in the entrance to a cave that the illusionist is hiding in? Why can't the illusionist create the image of a Cloudkill cloud, along with the odor of chlorine - so that even a stupid goblin who has never seen a cloudkill would know that this is bad stuff? Why can't the illusionist create an illusionary texture - a wall perhaps? Why can't the illusionist create a meal that tastes increadibly good - even though it is laced with a strong poison? The answers: because the AD&D illusionist concentrates on the sense of sight. This is such a gross waste of a such good character. One must rememeber the other spells that the illusionist has - they are more mind-control spells. So, that would indicate that the simple illusions have a taste of mind-control in them as well. The illusionist character class in AD&D is a poorly thought out class. It needs a major overhaul - not the attempted patches that have been offered in the Dragon. I have done so in my campaign - and boy is it better! Jeff Diewald {harpo|ihnp4|ima}!inmet!jmd