Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: notesfiles - hp 1.2 08/01/83; site hp-pcd.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!ittvax!dcdwest!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!hplabs!hp-pcd!nathanm From: nathanm@hp-pcd.UUCP Newsgroups: net.legal Subject: Re: Roadblocks, etc Message-ID: <11200001@hp-pcd.UUCP> Date: Fri, 13-Jul-84 14:24:00 EDT Article-I.D.: hp-pcd.11200001 Posted: Fri Jul 13 14:24:00 1984 Date-Received: Mon, 16-Jul-84 05:04:46 EDT References: <3108@brl-tgr.UUCP> Organization: Hewlett-Packard - Corvallis, OR Lines: 40 Nf-ID: #R:brl-tgr:-310800:hpcvre:11200001:000:1894 Nf-From: hpcvre!nathanm Jul 11 13:24:00 1984 Comparing restrictions on pilots to restrictions on drivers is not particularly valid, although I hasten to add that I am rabidly totalitarian on the drunk driving issue. Obtaining flying priveleges is considerably more difficult than obtaining driving priveleges. On the other hand, enforcement of the myriad regulations is a lot tougher. The fact is, there is no foolproof way to keep idiots out of the sky. By and large, the system works. But I would like to cite a couple of instances illustrating the system and its problems/benefits. At a fly-in at the Lebanon, Oregon airport a couple of years ago, some of the attendees at the party went flying around in a four-seater belonging to another attendee (who was not on board). They tried some low-altitude maneuvers, crashed and were all killed. None aboard was wearing seat belts and tests showed that all had been drinking. Naturally, the owner of the aircraft denies lending out his keys, claiming that the use of the aircraft was unauthorized. The old rule, "eight hours from bottle to throttle", was obviously not observed and there was no "roadblock" to the commission of an act of incredible stupidity. (Lebanon, like many small airports, has no airline service or control tower. Having a control tower would have added the minor stumbling block of having to sound coherent on the radio to be cleared for takeoff.) Airline pilots are subject to much more stringent rules than are private pilots. Among these are the requirements for a physical exam every six months. One pilot I heard of obtained his physical at an airport between flights. The doctor grounded him right there and then because he failed the blood pressure test. I have no conclusions or important points to share beyond the mere mention of these instances to supplement the point made by brl-tgr!abc. ---------- Nathan Meyers hplabs!hp-pcd!nathanm