Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 beta 3/9/83; site sdcrdcf.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!ittvax!dcdwest!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!jonab From: jonab@sdcrdcf.UUCP Newsgroups: net.legal Subject: Re: Legal Loopholes -- exclusionary rule Message-ID: <1203@sdcrdcf.UUCP> Date: Mon, 16-Jul-84 11:05:15 EDT Article-I.D.: sdcrdcf.1203 Posted: Mon Jul 16 11:05:15 1984 Date-Received: Tue, 17-Jul-84 06:37:59 EDT References: <426@teldata.UUCP> <1077@elsie.UUCP> Reply-To: jonab@sdcrdcf.UUCP (Jonathan Biggar) Organization: System Development Corporation, Santa Monica Lines: 31 In article <1077@elsie.UUCP> mark@elsie.UUCP writes: >Unfortunately, the only effective means of keeping the police from gathering >or manufacturing evidence illegally it to exclude it from the trial. >Suggestions that police should be prosecuted for their "crimes" will not >work because: (a) the police won't arrest; (b) the DA won't prosecute; >and (c) often there's no criminal statute that deals with the "crime". For >example, there's nothing illegal (usually) about obtaining an improper >search warrant, even if its done on purpose. The original justification for the exclusionary rule, (as I understand it), is to protect a person's freedom from "Illegal search and seizure", guaranteed by the U. S. Constitution. The idea was, in order to protect this right, it must be impossible for any government agency to gain from a violation of the right. Thus, illegally gained evidence cannot be used to convict a person. The problem with the exclusionary rule is that it has often been interpreted so liberally that criminals are allowed to go free, even when there was no intent to deny the right of freedom from illegal search and seizure. The alternative to the exclusionary rule is not to make it a crime for the police to obtain evidence illegaly, (unless they broke laws in doing it such as breaking and entering, etc.), but to allow the criminal to sue the police force in civil court on the grounds of violating his civil rights. The criminal will still go to jail when illegal evidence is found, but what cop in his right mind will risk being sued for $1 million because he violated someones rights? Jon Biggar {allegra,burdvax,cbosgd,hplabs,ihnp4,sdccsu3}!sdcrdcf!jonab