Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 6/7/83; site hao.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!mgnetp!ihnp4!houxm!houxz!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!hplabs!hao!ward From: ward@hao.UUCP (Mike Ward) Newsgroups: net.legal Subject: Re: Legal Loopholes -- exclusionary rule Message-ID: <1073@hao.UUCP> Date: Tue, 17-Jul-84 12:10:08 EDT Article-I.D.: hao.1073 Posted: Tue Jul 17 12:10:08 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 19-Jul-84 03:10:07 EDT References: <1203@sdcrdcf.UUCP> Organization: High Altitude Obs./NCAR, Boulder CO Lines: 36 [] > The original justification for the exclusionary rule, (as I understand > it), is to protect a person's freedom from "Illegal search and seizure", > guaranteed by the U. S. Constitution. The justification for the exclusionary rule is not to protect "a" person's freedom, but to protect the freedom of all of us. The idea being that if bustin in and rippin off whatever could be found did no good, then maybe the police would show some restraint. The people who are supposedly being protected by the exclusionary rule are not the criminals (whoever that may be - lord knows *I've* never broken any law, ever) but us good guys. Of course in these days when innocent people are rousted by the midnight marauders (oh, excuse us maam, wrong address - just put your thumbprint hear, take off all your clothes and we'll have you out on bail in just a few hours) and the guilty going free (Elisabeth Manning kills her son and gets off because, in order to find the kid's body they had to question her illegally), it's not working out that way. We've got the worst of it both ways. One is tempted to believe that the cops don't really care whether their actions result in a conviction, that they jsut like to kick ass. If this is the case then the whole basis for the exclusionary rule is invalid, and the only recourse for us good guys is the courts. Of course there are problems there, too. The laws being what they are, it is very difficult to get a judgement against the police, no matter how flagrant the violations. What year is this? -- Michael Ward, NCAR/SCD UUCP: {hplabs,nbires,brl-bmd,seismo,menlo70,stcvax}!hao!sa!ward ARPA: hplabs!hao!sa!ward@Berkeley BELL: 303-497-1252 USPS: POB 3000, Boulder, CO 80307