Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site mcnc.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!mgnetp!ihnp4!houxm!houxz!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!hplabs!sdcrdcf!sdcsvax!dcdwest!ittvax!decvax!mcnc!jwb From: jwb@mcnc.UUCP Newsgroups: net.med Subject: Re: insurance and doctors fees Message-ID: <2121@mcnc.UUCP> Date: Fri, 22-Jun-84 16:57:16 EDT Article-I.D.: mcnc.2121 Posted: Fri Jun 22 16:57:16 1984 Date-Received: Wed, 27-Jun-84 19:38:14 EDT References: <764@phoenix.UUCP> Organization: Microelectronics Ctr. of NC; RTP, NC Lines: 26 One reason physicians have different fees depending on the source of payment is that Medicare/Medicaid payment is based on a *percentage* of the "usual, customary, reasonable fee", which varies by geographical area and medical specialty. The last I heard, around here the percentage was 80% of what Blue Cross/Blue Shield will pay. The physician has several alternatives. One is to accept the 80% from the Feds and attempt to collect the rest from the patient. Another is to just settle for 80%. Another is to not accept patients with this type of coverage. In addition to obvious problems with this scheme, in areas where Medicare pays a lot of claims, the private insurors are starting to adjust their allowable charges downward, saying the 80% level is becomming the prevailing fee. If this were continued, all fees would eventually converge to zero. Of course the objective of the Feds is to reduce the costs of their massively expensive health benefit programs without cutting off anyone's coverage. Their method, however, has produced massive confusion and incon- sistencies with respect to fees. The above method is gradually being scrapped, to be replaced with a flat fee, based on diagnosis, regardless of the actual costs to the health care provider. Presently this scheme (called DRG's, for Diagnosis Related Groupings, or something similar) applies only to hospitals, although everyone expects it to eventually apply to Physicians and to be adopted by the private insurors. It will open a new set of problems (for example for teaching hospitals, where costs are higher). Jack Buchanan Medicine and Biomedical Engineering Univ of North Carolina at Chapel Hill decvax!mcnc!jwb