Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 (Tek) 9/26/83; site shark.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!hao!hplabs!tektronix!orca!shark!hutch From: hutch@shark.UUCP (Stephen Hutchison) Newsgroups: net.philosophy,net.sci,net.misc Subject: Re: Mind and Brain Message-ID: <856@shark.UUCP> Date: Tue, 26-Jun-84 00:35:10 EDT Article-I.D.: shark.856 Posted: Tue Jun 26 00:35:10 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 30-Jun-84 01:17:44 EDT References: <1396@proper.UUCP> Organization: Tektronix, Wilsonville OR Lines: 27 | "subconsious", "mind", etc -- what DO these words mean? More | importantly, do these things exist? | I assert they do not. I take the behaviorist philosophy that what you | call "mind" is a thing invented by Plato or some dead Greek person | which is just as mystical and unreal as "the Gods" or "magic." | What you have is a brain. What you do is behavior. You are an | organism that responds to AND IS CHANGED BY your environment. That's | all. The rest you've made up or assumed was true because some dead | greek person said it was there. | Show me your "mind" -- demonstrate its existence. I dare you. | (oh dear, he's doing it again ...) -- | Gordon A. Moffett I love how Moffett casually dismisses the efforts of those men whose lifework was to understand the nature of themselves and reality. Who cares that they developed the framework from which our view of the world arose. They are dead Greek persons and their ideas are not worthy of any consideration. Even better, he dares us to demonstrate the existance of our minds, while adequately demonstrating the lack of existance of his own. (No :-) for fools like that! Is there a symbol for tears of pity?) Hutch