Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site pyuxa.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!pyuxww!pyuxa!wetcw From: wetcw@pyuxa.UUCP (T C Wheeler) Newsgroups: net.misc,net.religion Subject: Time and the Amino Acid Motorcycle Message-ID: <902@pyuxa.UUCP> Date: Mon, 23-Jul-84 13:49:28 EDT Article-I.D.: pyuxa.902 Posted: Mon Jul 23 13:49:28 1984 Date-Received: Tue, 24-Jul-84 04:10:08 EDT Organization: Bell Communications Research, Piscataway N.J. Lines: 34 I have been following this 'time enough' argument and can see a hole in the 'not enough time' argument. You guys are assuming that the trys at combinations are taking place one after another, or in serial. Well, if you have this gigantic pot of soup in which these 'trys' are taking place, wouldn't it be more of a parallel action? Wouldn't 'biwions and biwions' (sorry Sagan) of 'trys' be occurring at once, given a whole ocean full of the stuff? Only one try a second is begging the question. Do raindrops fall once per second? No, and neither do chemical reactions occur on a serial basis. Remember the old 'magic' reaction where a liquid is turned instantly from clear to blue due to chemical reaction? This is not a serial reaction, it is parallel. I submit that the 'search' for an amino acid would have taken place in a parallel format which would have included ALL of the soup, not just one small portion of it? Now, all you guys go back to your calculators and figure out how much soup there was, then add in your time factor. In other words, given a finite amount of soup, and the amount of time the universe has been around (combinations could have been taking place even before the formation of the earth), how long would it take to hit the amino acids? I think this puts a different light on the subject. Further, once the first 'hit' is made (the first combination needed in building the acid) how much shorter or longer is the time factor in making the second 'hit' (the second combination factor needed to build the acid)? Could succeding 'trys' or 'hits' be shortened? Would the combination factors needed to put together an amino acid be a dominant reaction. That is, in many chemical reactions, there are primary or dominant reactions and secondary reactions, right? Would the formation of an amino acid have been a dominant reaction, thus subordinating other reactions? These are all just questions that have been bothering me since this subject came up. Anyone want to reply? T. C. Wheeler