Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 7/1/84; site seismo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!mgnetp!ihnp4!zehntel!dual!amd!decwrl!decvax!genrad!wjh12!harvard!seismo!keith From: keith@seismo.UUCP (Keith Bostic) Newsgroups: net.misc Subject: Re: Re: Why Smoke? Message-ID: <1694@seismo.UUCP> Date: Fri, 29-Jun-84 18:09:07 EDT Article-I.D.: seismo.1694 Posted: Fri Jun 29 18:09:07 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 27-Jul-84 05:32:04 EDT References: <1546@zehntel.UUCP> Organization: Center for Seismic Studies, Arlington, VA Lines: 35 >> "As for the matter of interaction with nonsmokers, I try to avoid making >> other people get involved in my habit. If a nonsmoker informs me *politely* >> that my smoke is bothering him, then I will either move out of his area >> or put my cigarette out." > Why don't you just assume as a default that smoke bothers most people, > and not subject them to have to request that you not smoke near them? > Performing a known offensive act with the intent of continuing > until someone asks you to please not do it is a poor excuse for > civility. Perhaps you should wait until everybody around you explicitly > asks you to smoke before you light up. I don't like either approach. Number one, yes, people feel uncomfortable saying "Put that out!" especially since you just blew how ever much money it cost and some time etc. not to mention you were *really* getting into a nicotine high. On the other hand, assuming that by default people don't want you to smoke (by the way, known offensive act, known to whom? certainly not me!) is denying yourself something you want for no reason. Why not just say, "Pardon me, would it bother you if I smoke?" and if the answer is "No" or "Go right ahead" then fire that Camel up. Other answers may lead to you leaving to find a place or not lighting up for the moment. If the respondent is too lily-livered to admit that it bothers them, well, since the smoke is damaging to their lungs too, you've just done your bit for evolution. (Remember, the meek inherit the earth, but it's usually small sections, about 6 by 3.) Anyway, by asking, you've been fair. Forcing it on someone is obnoxious. Assuming it will bother them may mean the loss of a pleasure in what is already a short life. (And getting shorter, the more you smoke.) Puff the magic dragon was in an elevator next to me, Keith ARPA: keith@seismo UUCP: seismo!keith