Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!ihnp4!zehntel!dual!amd!decwrl!decvax!mcnc!ecsvax!dgary From: dgary@ecsvax.UUCP Newsgroups: net.sci,net.philosophy,net.misc Subject: science and belief Message-ID: <2980@ecsvax.UUCP> Date: Mon, 23-Jul-84 17:20:08 EDT Article-I.D.: ecsvax.2980 Posted: Mon Jul 23 17:20:08 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 28-Jul-84 08:48:25 EDT Lines: 38 <> This was prompted by several recent postings on free will, mind and brain, psi phenomena, Shirley MacLaine and other odds and ends. I believe it was Carl Sagan who observed (in connection with the existence of extraterrestrials) that "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence." Whenever someone declares a belief in flying saucers, pyramid power, handwriting analysis, or the S A T, you can bet a righteous host will respond with a cascade of prose pointing out all holes in the argument bigger than a proton, and I'm right there cheering them on ... up to a point. I quite agree that the evidence offered so far (offered where I can see it, anyway) is pretty lousy for any of these things. So I don't believe in flying saucers or spooks or bermuda shorts. Leprechauns, well... I further believe in the NON-existence of some things. I don't believe that vampires are a large and active segment of the population, because if that were true we would expect to see some evidence (bat craps, I suppose). I disbelieve in ROUTINE psi phenomena because if they were going on all around me I think I'd notice, and anyway someone would have come up with solid demonstrations by now, right? But I think a few posters have been carelessly implying that if there is no evidence for the existence of something, that something does not exist. Sometimes people ask me if I believe in life on other planets. I tell them I don't know. I certainly would like to think it is possible for such life to exist - perhaps even probable. But I don't know either way. I'm probably not as consistent and sensible on this as I'd like to think, but it strikes me as good policy. D Gary Grady Duke University Computation Center, Durham, NC 27706 (919) 684-4146 USENET: {decvax,ihnp4,akgua,etc.}!mcnc!ecsvax!dgary