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From: dubois@uwmacc.UUCP
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Subject: Re: History and homosexuality
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Date: Mon, 2-Jul-84 17:03:23 EDT
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Posted: Mon Jul  2 17:03:23 1984
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>[Scott Oaks]
>The simple truth is that there are no ill consequences to society caused
>by homosexuality.  Historically, this was not always the case:  when the
>Bible was written, not to procreate was dangerous to the tribe, which needed
>all the members it could get.  Even until recently, simple economics dictated
>that society produce as many offspring as possible.  Yet this is no longer
>the case; indeed, given the current exponential growth rates of consumption
>of every important resource we possess, it may be convincingly argued that
>homosexuality is now a better adaptive behaviour for the species than is
>heterosexuality.  At the very least, however, it requires no independent
>justification:  it is at least a neutral issue.

Now, the first 1 1/2 sentences of the above excerpt (up to the colon)
comprise either an evident paradox, or a contradiction.
The majority of the evidence available with which to judge the
effects of homosexuality on society lies in the past, i.e., is historical.
How is it possible to assert that homosexuality has no ill consequences
and also that the opposite is true?

Anyway, the question which interests me is:  "simple truth" aside, what
is the relation between the incidence of homosexuality and the society
in which it is manifested?  I have read {heard, etc.} that every society
which has allowed itself to embrace homosexuality has quickly fallen.
Anyone have any information on this?

Paul DuBois