Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 6/7/83; site hao.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!mgnetp!ihnp4!zehntel!dual!amd70!noao!hao!woods From: woods@hao.UUCP Newsgroups: net.news.group,net.news Subject: Re: nuke net.general? & a radical proposal Message-ID: <1023@hao.UUCP> Date: Mon, 25-Jun-84 22:39:53 EDT Article-I.D.: hao.1023 Posted: Mon Jun 25 22:39:53 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 28-Jun-84 04:48:24 EDT References: <32@cbosgd.UUCP>, <105@stc70.UUCP>, <8335@gatech.UUCP> Organization: High Altitude Obs./NCAR, Boulder CO Lines: 30 I agree with most of Gene's radical proposal. We clearly need *some* group for general purpose items. It never occured to me to change the charter of net.general, but now that I've read all the articles on the subject, I think we have no choice. We can't remove net.general (I wanted to type "nuke" so badly! :-) , but we *can* get rid of net.misc and followup, put all those articles in net.general, and use net/mod.announce for the purpose net.general was originally intended for. It seems clear to me that there are too many ignorant bozos posting to the net (I may be a bozo, but at least I'm not ignorant! :-) for a group such as net.general was intended to be to function properly without moderation. Obviously, Mark Horton saw all this coming when he created net.announce in the first place. The only place I disagree, Gene, is in your optimstic estimate how difficult such a change would be. There are many, many casual users out there who don't read net.news or any of it's subgroups. Is it really possible to post an article to *every* group? I think that is what it will take to make such a radical change possible. I do agree, however, that we have to do *something*. Growth is fine, as long as it's direction is controlled. I've been saying for a long time that we *need* more of a tree-like newsgroup structure. What Gene is proposing is clearly a move in that direction. The only question is, is it really possible? I think maybe we should at least give it a try. --Greg -- {ucbvax!hplabs | allegra!nbires | decvax!stcvax | harpo!seismo | ihnp4!stcvax} !hao!woods "... brave the storm to come, for it surely looks like rain" NUKE NET.GENERAL!!!