Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: Notesfiles; site ea.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!ea!mwm From: mwm@ea.UUCP Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Ethics and others in libertarianism - (nf) Message-ID: <10100067@ea.UUCP> Date: Mon, 23-Jul-84 19:59:00 EDT Article-I.D.: ea.10100067 Posted: Mon Jul 23 19:59:00 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 27-Jul-84 09:08:13 EDT References: <2501@mit-vax.UUCP> Lines: 35 Nf-ID: #R:mit-vax:-250100:ea:10100067:000:1384 Nf-From: ea!mwm Jul 23 18:59:00 1984 #R:mit-vax:-250100:ea:10100067:000:1384 ea!mwm Jul 23 18:59:00 1984 I didn't pick on this the first time around, but now... From: rlr@pyuxn.UUCP It also seems to me that such people are quick to point out their rights without acknowledging the fact that they have to share the world with other people. ("I can drive 80 on this road if I want to. So what if it's just a two-lane dirt road! *I* know what *I'm* doing! If someone else in front of me is going too slow, I'll cut around them!! Who cares if their money paid for these roads, too?") Look at this from the other side: It's 5 AM, and I'm on a divided highway in southwestern deserts. Is there any good reason for me not to drive 80 (or more), other than it being illegal? That would be a libertarian viewpoint. The one you picked on isn't a libertarian viewpoint, it's *crazy*. You *can* have a libertarian-style system on the roads. The Europeans (I know the Germans & a few others are, I'm not sure if everybody in europe is doing this) have a speed limit that says "safe and reasonable". Have you ever seen somebody drift two lanes on a shallow curve (~30 degrees) in town? Or been passed by a BMW like you were standing still, even though you were doing 85? These are (or were when I was there) regular events in Germany. They still managed to have a lower per-capita & per-auto accident rate than the US. Doesn't that tell you that we are doing something wrong?