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From: rjb@akgua.UUCP (R.J. Brown [Bob])
Newsgroups: net.religion
Subject: Re: Absurdity Continued
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Date: Thu, 12-Jul-84 12:27:29 EDT
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Posted: Thu Jul 12 12:27:29 1984
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> 
>                                             The secularists
> are unparalleled for absurdity and provide far more material
> for mockery than Ernest Angeley or Jerry Falwell ever have.
> Maybe the seeming timidity of believers has something to do
> with the Christian tradition of *Apologetics*.
> 
> Am I the only one who looks at it like this?

!!Oh, no. Ernest and Jerry are right there with you. 
!!"The secularists" that gave you so many happy moments do not
!!make their living representing atheism ("secularism") -
!!quite unlike these two gentlemen's relation to Christianity.
!!Also, your explanation of the "timidity" would have greatly
!!amused a number of people - from that Jew who got burned during
!!an auto-da-fe, to that Protestant who got shot by some Catholic.
!!
!!"Talk a lot, so that they have
!! enough things to quote 4000 years from now."    
!!                                         -  God, addressing Solomon.
!!
!!                     ------------------- 
!!                     Mike Musing

Hey Mike,

What do you mean that "Secularists...do not make their living
representing atheism" ??  Isn't that in the eye of the beholder ??

For instance I would classify the following groups and individuals
as Secularists who indeed making their living promoting atheism
if you will permit me to be very literal with the word ATHEIST,
which means "without God" or A Theos in the Greek:

		American Atheist Assn (Ms O'Hair, her kids, and
		probably a few pets)

		American Communist Party

		People for the American Way

		Planned Parenthood

		Most of "Hollywood"

		Most of the Record and Tape Industry

		Playboy Empire

		Organized Crime

		NOW

		Abortionists and their "Pro Choice" Supporters

All these groups and many more conduct their affairs at the very
least as if God doesn't exist.  They are not necessarily shaking
their fist at God say like Ms. O'Hair does but they are largely
atheistic by my definition.

And they definitely promote their point of view that at least God
is irrelevant while they present Hedonism or other vacuous ideals 
as the Supreme Good in the Universe.

Just because they don't wear a three piece preachin' suit or a
reverse collar doesn't mean they are not sales reps for their
beliefs.



Bob Brown {...ihnp4!akgua!rjb}
AT&T Technologies, Inc.............. Norcross, Ga
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