Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!laura From: laura@utzoo.UUCP (Laura Creighton) Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: Re: How "Useful" Is The Church? Message-ID: <4092@utzoo.UUCP> Date: Sun, 15-Jul-84 03:30:15 EDT Article-I.D.: utzoo.4092 Posted: Sun Jul 15 03:30:15 1984 Date-Received: Sun, 15-Jul-84 03:30:15 EDT References: <342@ihuxo.UUCP> Organization: U of Toronto Zoology Lines: 35 The T/A (teaching assistant, for those of you that use other words) of a philosophy course I took last year had just arrived in Toronto to get his Phd. At the same time he is at whatver you call the last stage you are at in the Baptist Church before they give you your own congregation. So he got a transfer to a Toronto Church at the same time. Now, there is one thing that you have to know about Toronto. In a very large part of it it is true to say that ``Torontonians never laugh or cry''. It is the old British ``stiff-upper-lip'' bit. I gather he wasn't used to this and was used to people actually having fun in church. Around here, church is not for fun. He was astonished to discover that almost all of the congregation was at church because they were all sure that if they didn't go they would go to hell. The rest were there so that they could tell their neighbours (and God) about how hard they suffered to get to church at some early hour of the morning. He said that it was enough to make him not want to go to church, and his conclusion was that the whole place was full of the sort of people that you don't want to have in church at all. He said that he would have just told everybody to go home for a few weeks until the people who were thoroughly peeved abnout this would stop coming and then he could see what could be done about the rest. Something tells me that he isn't going to get very far in the Baptist heirarchy, whatever that is... If this is what all churches are full of I figure you would be better off talking to your dying trees. At any rate you wouldn't be seething with resentment the whole time... Laura Creighton utzoo!laura