Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site siemens.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!tektronix!uw-beaver!cornell!vax135!houxz!houxm!mhuxl!ulysses!allegra!princeton!eosp1!siemens!wws From: wws@siemens.UUCP (William W Smith) Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: Re: more on atheism Message-ID: <233@siemens.UUCP> Date: Tue, 24-Jul-84 18:21:47 EDT Article-I.D.: siemens.233 Posted: Tue Jul 24 18:21:47 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 27-Jul-84 02:43:01 EDT Organization: Siemens RTL Princeton, NJ Lines: 25 >> The thing to remember is that both psychic phenomena and religious >> experience are subjective, and therefore belief and disbelief make a >> definite difference. [John Owen] >The question arises as to whether what you choose to believe in is valid, >independent of whether it has an effect on you. [Rich Rosen] Right! The skeptic can not accept the improbable, while the believer who acts as a toy soldier not questioning his assumptions will have incorrect beliefs. What is true, is true whether you believe it or not. As a former agnostic (read "a euphemism for atheist") I knew that Scientific American could explain all problems, answer all questions.... Then driving to work there was a story on the radio of a psychic who found a boy lost in the New York area. It didn't fit in with my preconcieved ideas of the universe so I started looking elsewhere for answers (while keeping my SA subscription). I still get Scientific American, but it is no longer an idol which will divulge the world's secrets for me. The power of friend's (not all of them Christian) witness converted me to be a follower of Christ. (I avoid the word Christian because it has been misused greatly by groups I consider fanatical like Falwell's Flock.) Bill Smith ihnp4!astrovax!princeton!siemens!wws